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  Is it just me ? 2 threads debating page after page with one individual ?

  by smiddy in

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  is it just me who doesnt see the point of this ?

  from time to time we see some individual who takes up page after page arguing his or her point of view and it usually ends up with only 2 or 3 individuals who keep the talkfest going with a particular individual and nobodys getting anything out of it .. why bother ?

  why get sucked in to such a pointless dialogue ?

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  just fine

  Sorry - I got sucked in, I usually stay away from those.
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  ARC Analysis Summary of Case Files

  by Richard Oliver in

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  2. child-abuse

  i have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.

  i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.

  it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.

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  just fine

  Sometimes we all get a little "passionate" about things. I think most of us has been that person at one time or another. One of my favorite quotes from here is " Your Jehovah's Witness is showing". It reminds me to let other people believe what they want to.

  Again we all come at things from a unique perspective. All of us were hurt in different ways from the Witnesses or we wouldn't be here. We are mad because we were lied to, abused, treated badly, so different things trigger each person. I don't blame or credit the JWs for how my life has turned out - it's all on me.

  I feel like your original point was that JW's can't be responsible for all cases of child abuse within the organization because they couldn't have known about them. I agree with that. It's the cases they did know about and didn't report that gets me going. Their policies that allow an abuser to not face criminal consequences, it needs to change. Children are so vulnerable they need to be protected wherever they are. People here are touchy about it because at one time we all thought those policies were right, and we know better now.
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  ARC Analysis Summary of Case Files

  by Richard Oliver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.

  i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.

  it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.

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  just fine

  I have no reason not to acknowledge things as they come up. I can then analyze and determine whether I believe them to be relevant or not. It's not a personal attack on you that I don't see things the same as you. We have different backgrounds, different perspectives, so we come to different conclusions. It's life 😀
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  ARC Analysis Summary of Case Files

  by Richard Oliver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.

  i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.

  it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.

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  just fine

  Your numbers have nothing to do with people not punished by law enforcement, how could they?

  My beliefs, are just that, mine. And yours belong to you. I don't need to change mine, and you don't need to change yours if you are happy with them. We both have beliefs, we believe are firmly rooted and I am happy with mine. I don't need your validation or permission to have whatever beliefs I choose.

  You want everyone to agree with you, to validate your point of view. We don't all have to agree on anything, that's the benefit of being an ex-jw.
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  ARC Analysis Summary of Case Files

  by Richard Oliver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.

  i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.

  it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.

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  just fine

  I am not concerned with the numbers. People who know they are being watched, whether by police, their neighbors, or parole officers do not have the same access to children as persons who have never been arrested.

  By allowing sexual predators to remain in contact with children, and not letting authorities handle the predators, the Jehovah's Witnesses become guilty. Are they guilty for every instance of abuse? No. But they are guilty when they knew someone was a predator (inside the family or outside) and did nothing to stop him/her from molesting the same child or another child again.
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  ARC Analysis Summary of Case Files

  by Richard Oliver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.

  i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.

  it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.

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  just fine

  When people register as a sex offender the police do monitor them, check to make sure they haven't moved etc. They are not allowed to live near schools etc. Their names, pictures, and addresses are published publicly so the community and schools know who they are.

  When they move into a neighborhood you are notified, regardless of whether they are on parole or not. Giving parents and other adults a chance to protect children from predators.

  Please quit with the lawyeresque posts.
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  ARC Analysis Summary of Case Files

  by Richard Oliver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.

  i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.

  it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.

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  just fine

  Did you read what you just posted? "Registration is not considered part of the parole or probation as individuals who are released following serving their full sentence is still required to register".

  Meaning that just because they are no longer on probation they are still monitored under the sex offenders registry. It just means probation and parole aren't monitoring. The sex offenders still have to register with the local police.
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  ARC Analysis Summary of Case Files

  by Richard Oliver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.

  i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.

  it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.

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  just fine

  Please note where it says they were not registered sex offenders or under other types of law enforcement scrutiny.
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  ARC Analysis Summary of Case Files

  by Richard Oliver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.

  i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.

  it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.

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  just fine

  We must not be looking at the same DOJ report, but I guess

  Its your lie, tell it the way you want to.
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  ARC Analysis Summary of Case Files

  by Richard Oliver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.

  i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.

  it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.

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  just fine

  I believe your DOJ statistics don't tell the whole story of what the report actually said. If you examine it carefully it states those statistics are for sex offenders that are being actively monitored by law enforcement or on sex offender registries so that parents and schools know these people should not be around children.

  If Jehovah's Witnesses would just allow the authorities to take care of abuse issues, they would not have the problems they do.

  edited to add: recidivism rates only include the number of times someone got caught reoffending.